Question: Is light the fastest known thing in our solar system?
I'm asking due to some recent thinking on Vedic Astrology. In the ancient language of Sanskrit the word for Vedic Astrology is Jyotish. Jyotish means "that which is related to shining." Astrology is the art of determining the exact time of events along with the make up of the event, so is intrinsically related to time and matter...
Any information would be helpful.
Thanks
I'm asking due to some recent thinking on Vedic Astrology. In the ancient language of Sanskrit the word for Vedic Astrology is Jyotish. Jyotish means "that which is related to shining." Astrology is the art of determining the exact time of events along with the make up of the event, so is intrinsically related to time and matter...
Any information would be helpful.
Thanks
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Re: Is light the fastest know thing in our solar system?
Wed, February 14, 2007 - 10:19 PMIt depends on what you mean. The speed of light in a vacuum seems to be a characteristic parameter of our universe. It literally appears to be built in to the geometry of the universe at a fundamental level. However, light doesn't even travel at the speed of light, except in a vacuum. Gravity waves, if they exist and behave as predicted, travel at the speed of light. Neutrinos usually travel at very close to the speed of light. Any object can travel as close to the speed of light as you want, although never at the speed of light unless it has zero rest mass (no mass when sitting still).
Other things happen with, to put it somewhat technically, superliminal spacetime separations, meaning that to connect the two events something would have to travel at a speed greater than that of light. Look in the Quantum Physics tribe for postings about this.
How "exact" do you mean when you say the exact time of events? -
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Re: Is light the fastest know thing in our solar system?
Thu, February 15, 2007 - 6:05 PMiHod,
Thanks for the reply and answering my question.
In regards to the exactness of astrology, in theory it should be able to predict everything. For example, every moment in a person's life should be predictable from there birth chart. But, as with everything, there is debate about this in astrology... Astrology has a long way to go-like other sciences-to get some great accuracy. The science world still has to have its head slammed by a 2x4 before it realizes something to be a fact in nature. Anyway, much to learn.
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Re: Is light the fastest know thing in our solar system?
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Re: Is light the fastest know thing in our solar system?
Sat, February 17, 2007 - 9:36 PMMick,
Stay on target with the topic...!
I only commented on astrology, because iHod had a question with what I was asking in regards to the topic.
Whatever I study I deeply ponder and practice it, so don't get me started...!
Save the "Stupid Astrology Tribe" stuff for another tribe!
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Re: Is light the fastest know thing in our solar system?
Sun, February 18, 2007 - 1:31 PMLOL!
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Re: Is light the fastest know thing in our solar system?
Sun, February 18, 2007 - 1:44 PMWhy is it that some people, when their belief systems are threatened, are unable to do anything except say, "take your discussion elsewhere?" Astrology has been debunked many times over and hasn't been regarded as a "science" for a long, long time. To say it has a long way to go would imply there are developments to be made in astrology, when even the obsessively astrological India cannot do anything new with the most precise "measures" they've got. Never mind that even the most "pure" interpretations of any astrological ideal are subjective, at best.
I have seen devout astrological practitioners absolutely ruin lives with their "interpretations." I have never met anyone who could reversely tell me what my birthday after they've had a chance to get to know me. But this is beside the point. My original point was to be, don't take anything too seriously: But I can see I'm too late.
Sure, talk about the speed of light and how many thousands or millions of years it took for the light you see today to come from the star you've charted on your birthday. But that's about the extent of the connection between physics and astrology. -
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Re: Is light the fastest know thing in our solar system?
Sun, February 18, 2007 - 3:40 PMMick,
I know this might be hard for your mind to grasp, but this a physics tribe and not an astrology tribe. I had a physics question and I received a physics answer. End of discussion.
If you want to critique astrology then do it on the “Astrology is stupid tribe” or some other astrology tribe.
I don’t care about your experiences or thoughts on astrology.
Just like you could blab on for days about how stupid astrology is I could do the same for modern western medicine and other modern western sciences. -
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Re: Is light the fastest know thing in our solar system?
Sun, February 18, 2007 - 4:07 PMlovemelovemygoat.tribe.net
You brought pseudoscience to science. I merely pointed that out. Your "end of discusson" tactic reminds me of many Republicans I know. -
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Re: Is light the fastest know thing in our solar system?
Sun, March 4, 2007 - 3:23 PMI know I'm a bit late in joining the discussion, but I'm with Mick on this one. This is a perfectly fine place to criticize astrology, especially if someone tries to classify it as a science: this is a tribe of people who are interested in science, and to suggest that astrology is a scientific pursuit is simply wrong. It's not an "attack on astrology" so much as an application of the definition of science.
From OSX's dictionary app:
science |ˈsīəns| noun: the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment
If you don't want others to apply logic and the scientific method to a topic in which you're interested then you shouldn't try to talk to people who are passionate about science about that issue. -
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Re: Is light the fastest know thing in our solar system?
Tue, March 6, 2007 - 5:07 PMCriticizing, in the sense of performing a critical analysis, is one thing. Mick's post of the link to stupidastrology crosses the line into personal attack, in my view. Goat's original question was a perfectly reasonable physics question. I did prompt for a follow up, although my question was misunderstood. Certainly a response questioning the merits of astrology as a science could have been put in a less inflamatory way.
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